1st Gen General Discussion The place for non-technical discussion about 1st Gen RX-7s or if there's no better place for your topic

Rotary horror stories

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-24-12 | 11:06 PM
  #1  
Qingdao's Avatar
Thread Starter
HeyHeyHey..Its the Goose
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,811
Likes: 83
From: Charleston
Rotary horror stories

Rotaries get a lot of razzing about a lack of reliability, but I found out how much of a punishment one can take...

When I took my 13B apart I noticed there were no triangular apex seals in either rotor. At first I just thought they fell out somewhere, but how could all 6 elude me? I've come to the conclusion that the PO never put them in.

It also had 0 compression on the front rotor. The PO blew the apex seals out, but I didn't know any better so I drove it anyway.

At any rate the engine did move under its own power, and it made it home. I guess thats the equivalent of a piston car having NO rings on 2 cylinders and one set of compression rings on the other 2 and still driving home!!!



So ya'll got stories to top that? I'm sure I just wanna read them.



ALSO... I likes this video. Talk about engines taking a beating!

Old 07-24-12 | 11:14 PM
  #2  
BrGreenSA's Avatar
Duke of Hiroshima
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 293
Likes: 6
From: SoCal
the 12a my car originally had was run with no oil for at least 1000 miles by the po, scorching the housings and rendering them useless. drove well though :P and currently i have a hairline crack in the bottom oil cooler fitting, meaning my car dumps a quart every 150 miles.
Old 07-24-12 | 11:37 PM
  #3  
Qingdao's Avatar
Thread Starter
HeyHeyHey..Its the Goose
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,811
Likes: 83
From: Charleston
Originally Posted by BrGreenSA
the 12a my car originally had was run with no oil for at least 1000 miles by the po, scorching the housings and rendering them useless. drove well though :P and currently i have a hairline crack in the bottom oil cooler fitting, meaning my car dumps a quart every 150 miles.
Nice... Got pics?

OT, but do you need an oil cooler? I've got a spare colecting dust.
Old 07-24-12 | 11:39 PM
  #4  
BrGreenSA's Avatar
Duke of Hiroshima
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 293
Likes: 6
From: SoCal
if it is a front mount, i am definitely looking if the price is reasonable. never got pics of the housings, wish i would have, i've never seen any housings like that before.
Old 07-24-12 | 11:44 PM
  #5  
Qingdao's Avatar
Thread Starter
HeyHeyHey..Its the Goose
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,811
Likes: 83
From: Charleston
Originally Posted by BrGreenSA
if it is a front mount, i am definitely looking if the price is reasonable. never got pics of the housings, wish i would have, i've never seen any housings like that before.
I've got chunks taken out of mine.... I drove around 60 miles with it blown out. In my defence I didn't know any better. I was under the assumption "WHAT IS THE HYPE ABOUT ROTARIES... THEY SUCK", but now I know that was less than half of what the machine is capable of. :P
Old 07-24-12 | 11:58 PM
  #6  
BrGreenSA's Avatar
Duke of Hiroshima
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 293
Likes: 6
From: SoCal
lol the best part was that since it was running rough on only one chamber, my dad told me it probably just needs a tune up XD
Old 07-25-12 | 12:22 AM
  #7  
Qingdao's Avatar
Thread Starter
HeyHeyHey..Its the Goose
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,811
Likes: 83
From: Charleston


Whatever came out of the rotor wanted to go into the water jacket... It just didn't quite make it. LOL
Old 08-29-12 | 09:57 PM
  #8  
Qingdao's Avatar
Thread Starter
HeyHeyHey..Its the Goose
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,811
Likes: 83
From: Charleston
I am absolutly livid.

If I ever catch the last guy that built the 13B in my car I'll wring his neck till it is truly red.

There is NO OIL PRESSURE REGULATOR CONTROL VALVE!!!! I didn't know about this part cause I've never taken apart one of these engines. I've been wondering why I have ZERO oil pressure... Well thats why!

Guess I'm gonna take ANOTHER part off of my 12A tomorrow.
Old 08-30-12 | 10:29 AM
  #9  
DivinDriver's Avatar
1st-Class Engine Janitor
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,376
Likes: 28
From: Chino Hills, CA
Pic made me throw up in my mouth a little.
Old 08-30-12 | 05:02 PM
  #10  
j9fd3s's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 31,203
Likes: 2,826
From: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
FC3S Pro v2.0:&nbsp K2RD HOF

oldie but a goodie. Mr Ko was driving at the 8250 rev limiter, and the engine said no. i'm not sure what failed first, but you can see the rotors stopped orbiting, and started spinning, which made them round, then it locked up and since the car was going 100mph, it sheared the stationary gear, and then the flywheel right off.

the symptom? the engine quit. no drama, no smoke, it just stopped.

the engine we put in after that we got rid of the rev limiter, and ran it to 9400, and it is tired, but intact.
Old 08-30-12 | 10:49 PM
  #11  
Qingdao's Avatar
Thread Starter
HeyHeyHey..Its the Goose
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,811
Likes: 83
From: Charleston
Originally Posted by j9fd3s
FC3S Pro v2.0:&nbsp K2RD HOF

oldie but a goodie. Mr Ko was driving at the 8250 rev limiter, and the engine said no. i'm not sure what failed first, but you can see the rotors stopped orbiting, and started spinning, which made them round, then it locked up and since the car was going 100mph, it sheared the stationary gear, and then the flywheel right off.

the symptom? the engine quit. no drama, no smoke, it just stopped.

the engine we put in after that we got rid of the rev limiter, and ran it to 9400, and it is tired, but intact.
How do you shear tension bolts!?! Oh 100mph lock up... hehe
Old 08-31-12 | 12:41 AM
  #12  
DivinDriver's Avatar
1st-Class Engine Janitor
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,376
Likes: 28
From: Chino Hills, CA
Originally Posted by j9fd3s
i'm not sure what failed first, but you can see the rotors stopped orbiting, and started spinning, which made them round, then it locked up and since the car was going 100mph, it sheared the stationary gear, and then the flywheel right off.
Looking at the pics, I would hazard that the stat gear let go first; it's what's in charge of orbits vs rotations. Could have been flex in the e-shaft due to balance harmonics crashed the bearing.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
datfast1
Old School and Other Rotary
18
06-20-19 11:53 PM
Jeff20B
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
73
09-16-18 08:16 PM
Under PSI
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
19
09-24-15 12:47 AM
datfast1
West RX-7 Forum
3
09-14-15 07:58 PM
Murilli
Midwest RX-7 Forum
0
09-03-15 10:10 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:23 PM.