(FUEL) *pics* Turbo Fuel System and Project Kramer Update!
#26
Speaking of lines and such.... What size orifice did you use to restrict the oil feed line going to the turbo? I read that you should use a 1.8-2mm orifice. I drilled and taped my banjo bolt that goes into the turbo to allow a 1/16th pipe plug to screw inside of it. Then I drilled out a couple 1/16th pipe plugs (one with a .070" hole and the other .081"). I put the .081 in there and once I get her going I'll see if it smokes at all. If it doesn't smoke I'll up the size of the orifice if it does smoke I'll put the .070" in there. I wanted to do it this way so I could "tune" the oil supply to my turbo. I'm just curious to what crispeed told you to do? Here is a pic of the line and banjo bolts that I made up for the feed.
Last edited by setzep; 12-29-02 at 08:45 PM.
#29
Originally posted by Directfreak
No Steve..
Directfreak to AJC13B
You're the master here. No if's and or buts.
No Steve..
Directfreak to AJC13B
You're the master here. No if's and or buts.
Mine is functional....thats my story and I'm sticking to it
#30
what a piece of art you have there, directfreak. i wish i have the money to do my project look something like yours. and thanks for showing those photos, you gave me a great idea for the oil fee line, what is the size of yours?
Last edited by eddierotary; 12-29-02 at 11:20 PM.
#31
Any of us can do the same. It all boils down to money.
hey DF,,you rich ?? lott-o winner ?? lots of money there.
kramer is going to be a 'SHOW' car ?? or something ??
wait,,, i remember, you always wanted a turbo FB..
I agree steve, inspired us all , with the wheel stands,
but ****,,man your going all the way,,now arn't ya.
hey DF,,you rich ?? lott-o winner ?? lots of money there.
kramer is going to be a 'SHOW' car ?? or something ??
wait,,, i remember, you always wanted a turbo FB..
I agree steve, inspired us all , with the wheel stands,
but ****,,man your going all the way,,now arn't ya.
#32
Originally posted by Directfreak
-4AN line, with two 90 degree bends, If I need to restrict it any more, I will just kink the line, or put a -3AN reducer on the Turbo side.
-4AN line, with two 90 degree bends, If I need to restrict it any more, I will just kink the line, or put a -3AN reducer on the Turbo side.
What is that going into the turbo? 1/4" pipe? If so you could easily do what I did if you wanted to "tune" your oil supply. It was pretty simple, use a 1/4" drill on the pipe side of your blue fitting and then tap it 1/16" pipe. You can get 1/16"socket head pipe plugs at a harware store for like .0005 cents. All you would need is a set of small drill bits. But who knows, maybe your turbo can handle the higher oil flow.
Anyways...looking good.
oh yeah, your fuel filters. I saw that you had a 10 micron one before the filter. What do you have after the filter?? Should be a larger mesh/micron rating before the filter to keep the "nuts and bolts" from going through the pump then the finer filter after the pump to keep the injectors from cloging. You don't want a super fine filter before the pump because it can cavitate.
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Originally posted by eddierotary
what a piece of art you have there, directfreak. i wish i have the money to do my project look something like yours. and thanks for showing those photos, you gave me a great idea for the oil fee line, what is the size of yours?
what a piece of art you have there, directfreak. i wish i have the money to do my project look something like yours. and thanks for showing those photos, you gave me a great idea for the oil fee line, what is the size of yours?
The part is this one:
You'll just need to use one of the 2 outputs to make a feed line to the turbo.
Originally posted by mark perez
Any of us can do the same. It all boils down to money.
hey DF,,you rich ?? lott-o winner ?? lots of money there.
kramer is going to be a 'SHOW' car ?? or something ??
wait,,, i remember, you always wanted a turbo FB..
I agree steve, inspired us all , with the wheel stands,
but ****,,man your going all the way,,now arn't ya.
Any of us can do the same. It all boils down to money.
hey DF,,you rich ?? lott-o winner ?? lots of money there.
kramer is going to be a 'SHOW' car ?? or something ??
wait,,, i remember, you always wanted a turbo FB..
I agree steve, inspired us all , with the wheel stands,
but ****,,man your going all the way,,now arn't ya.
I am not building a drag car, as that gives alot of punishment to the whole car in general. I want a "great overall" kind of car. My mindset is that it will be able to compete in track SCCA style events, yet have all the luxuries and reliabilities of a daily driver. Obviously, the car isn't my daily driver, but that's my reliability goal.
Show car? Naw... too much work. But there's nothing wrong with a nice ride.
However, If It can run in the 11's on drag slicks, I will be happy. Putting slicks on the car will not be an option until the Ford 8.8 is in place. (who knows when) I also don't want to be embarrased by any ol' V8 or modified import if the urge strikes me.
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Originally posted by setzep
LOL, kink the line...good one hmm... -3 might just be enough to restrict the line.
What is that going into the turbo? 1/4" pipe?
LOL, kink the line...good one hmm... -3 might just be enough to restrict the line.
What is that going into the turbo? 1/4" pipe?
Originally posted by setzep
Anyways...looking good.
Anyways...looking good.
Originally posted by setzep
oh yeah, your fuel filters. I saw that you had a 10 micron one before the filter. What do you have after the filter?? Should be a larger mesh/micron rating before the filter to keep the "nuts and bolts" from going through the pump then the finer filter after the pump to keep the injectors from cloging. You don't want a super fine filter before the pump because it can cavitate.
oh yeah, your fuel filters. I saw that you had a 10 micron one before the filter. What do you have after the filter?? Should be a larger mesh/micron rating before the filter to keep the "nuts and bolts" from going through the pump then the finer filter after the pump to keep the injectors from cloging. You don't want a super fine filter before the pump because it can cavitate.
#35
DF, that is looking friggin awesome. The amount of work you're putting in to the car is nothing short of astounding.
When you finish you're abviously gonna have an absolute weapon. Well done.
My turbo 1st gen is currently off the road for mods and maintenance. Reading this post and following your build for awhile now, has convinced me to put alot of effort into the little things I do to my car.
Thanks, and keep up the good work.
When you finish you're abviously gonna have an absolute weapon. Well done.
My turbo 1st gen is currently off the road for mods and maintenance. Reading this post and following your build for awhile now, has convinced me to put alot of effort into the little things I do to my car.
Thanks, and keep up the good work.
#36
Reading this post and following your build for awhile now, has convinced me to put alot of effort into the little things I do to my car.
~T.J.
#37
DF your planning, attention to detail, and workmanship is great. Cool little things like heat-wrapping your turbo oil lines, that's sweet.
And thank you for the awesome detailed how-to style post, great reading and highly educational.
The only thing I can think of is you might want to fab a little rock shield for your fuel pump, it looks mighty vulnerable in those pics. And don't go near speed bumps!
Can't wait for your "It's Alive!!" post come January!
- Josh
p.s. The 84/85 12a tanks might be the same as the -SE tanks. Come springtime, when I can work in the garage without a lit heater, I'll open up my scavenged 85 12a tank and have a look.
And thank you for the awesome detailed how-to style post, great reading and highly educational.
The only thing I can think of is you might want to fab a little rock shield for your fuel pump, it looks mighty vulnerable in those pics. And don't go near speed bumps!
Can't wait for your "It's Alive!!" post come January!
- Josh
p.s. The 84/85 12a tanks might be the same as the -SE tanks. Come springtime, when I can work in the garage without a lit heater, I'll open up my scavenged 85 12a tank and have a look.
#38
Freaking AWESOME! or should I say "DIRECTFREAKing AWESOME!"!
Well thought out and planned with fantastic attention to detail.
Just a thought - I have a big truck, I get to My Mammy several times a year. Now... wouldn't that car be much better off up here in West Texas where the humidity, fungus, and black mold won't get at it? Just a thought...
Well thought out and planned with fantastic attention to detail.
Just a thought - I have a big truck, I get to My Mammy several times a year. Now... wouldn't that car be much better off up here in West Texas where the humidity, fungus, and black mold won't get at it? Just a thought...
#44
Originally posted by Directfreak
No, it's a -4AN line, within an insulated sleeve for the heat.
No, it's a -4AN line, within an insulated sleeve for the heat.
#45
Originally posted by 82streetracer
you could save some money by running rubber line from the pickup to a cheap filter, then to the pump and then nice aeroquip lines and a good filter from there.
you could save some money by running rubber line from the pickup to a cheap filter, then to the pump and then nice aeroquip lines and a good filter from there.
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Originally posted by setzep
I know yours is a -4. I was just pondering if putting a -3 fitting before the turbo could act as a orifice like you mentioned.
I know yours is a -4. I was just pondering if putting a -3 fitting before the turbo could act as a orifice like you mentioned.
Originally posted by setzep
Doing it that way will risk trashing the pump unless you had one hellofa large internal area filter. You don't want to have any restriction on the suction side of the pump. In all reality he might not have even needed to have a strainer before the pump because there is one inside the tank but he may have taken that one off.
Doing it that way will risk trashing the pump unless you had one hellofa large internal area filter. You don't want to have any restriction on the suction side of the pump. In all reality he might not have even needed to have a strainer before the pump because there is one inside the tank but he may have taken that one off.
As I said in the beginning, there are hundreds of different ways to do this. I have too much invested so far worry about fuel. Lack of fuel under boost makes engines go "pop".
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Originally posted by dcee
Very nice work. Nice and neat, the way I like it. Who made the turbo manifold for you?
Very nice work. Nice and neat, the way I like it. Who made the turbo manifold for you?
His information is in my Turbo Manifold Thread
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Originally posted by MIKE-P-28
So whats the next steps then, Alex?
So whats the next steps then, Alex?
Originally posted by Directfreak
That’s it for now, I have to pick up the driveshaft, Put the primary fuel rail in, finish the Haltech wiring, and then start the car! Hopefully in January it should be running.
That’s it for now, I have to pick up the driveshaft, Put the primary fuel rail in, finish the Haltech wiring, and then start the car! Hopefully in January it should be running.
Tuning, & Debugging (a while)
Putting the 2nd Gen Fuse Panel in permanently
4 Point Cage
Finish the Stereo system
Finish the Power Locks
Put the Silver faced Gauges in
Finish the Alarm
Finish the CF-Trim that I haven't put in yet.
Re-trim the interior in grey & black microfiber. (Alcantra style)
But the Widebody on it
Paint it
Put some nice wheels and tires
- Break some stuff -
Put a Ford 8.8 rear end in,
Go Torment some V8's and Porsche's.